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2019-11-27

132 - Erik Davis on Perturbations in the Reality Field

Ep. 132

This week’s guest is author, culture critic, and philosopher of the weird Erik Davis, whose work has been one of my main inspirations for almost ten years. His latest work of epic scholarship, High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies, is an exploration of topics I presumed inaccessible to academic inquiry so masterful I’ve been evangelizing it for months and basically forced a copy on my boss (David Krakauer, President of the Santa Fe Institute, who was a guest in Episode 75). In this episode we peer into the intersection of psychedelics, madness, systems science, postmodernism, and religious studies to ask about the truly other that refuses to allow us a clean answer to the questions, “What is the Real?” and “Did that just really happen?” Strap in for one of the headiest and most important conversations that we’ve ever had on Future Fossils…


Join the Future Fossils Podcast Patreon for exclusive perks like an extra 10 minutes of this conversation, in which Erik & Michael discuss “black goo.”


Visit Erik’s website to sign up for his email updates (always wonderful) and stay abreast of upcoming events, such as his talk at the SF Psychedelic Society on Thursday Dec 19.


Get a copy of High Weirdness at MIT Press.


Erik’s appearance on Future Fossils Episode 99 (a kind of prequel to this conversation).


My 2011 and 2012 appearances on Erik’s podcast, Expanding Mind.


Erik and I discuss over video chat (part 1, part 2) the revised and expanded third edition of his book Techgnosis: Myth, Magic, and Mysticism in the Age of Information.


Shop through my Amazon storefront and support the show indirectly with your purchases:

https://amazon.com/storefront/michaelgarfield


Join the Future Fossils Facebook Discussion Group

https://facebook.com/groups/futurefossils


Show music by Evan “Skytree” Snyder feat. Michael Garfield, “God Detector”

https://skytree.bandcamp.com/track/god-detector-ft-michael-garfield


Mentioned:


Jacques Lacan. Mark Fisher. Carol Cusack. Eric Wargo. Timothy Morton. Graham Harman. Jeff Kripal. Emelie Gomar. Bruno Latour. Albert Hofmann. Sasha Shulgin. Richard Doyle. Williiam James. Phil Dick. Cesar Hidalgo. Rachel Armstrong. Edward Snowden. Daniel Paul Schraber. 


We Discuss:


The abyss is close to home.


“The real, by definition, is not amenable to symbolization. Whatever kind of yen we have to sustain the symbolic in the face of the real is going to fail. And in that sense, the real is fundamentally traumatic.”


Perturbations of the reality field.


Extimacy.


“That’s not me…or if it is, I’m not me anymore.”


Refusing to remain within the purely human. To lean out. To open a portal.


The Weird vs. The Uncanny.


Fiction vs. Religion.


“In some sense Burning Man and the spirituality of Burning Man, if you want to call it that – the invention of new subjectivities, the development of an ecstatic culture at this end stage of capitalism and modern mythology – in a way is a kind of later iteration of the things I saw in the 70s.”


Material agency in the practice of science. “Science is not practiced by humans alone.” “Drugs as active participants in the enactment of their effects.”


“The thing about thinking is that sometimes it’s really clear the way you are actively putting things together, or actively exploring. But then sometimes it seems as if you are almost kind of taken over by an idea, and then the idea has stuff it wants to do, and you are just the connector or vehicle for it. What it means to think is to be in relationship to enigmas that have things to say.”


“With reductionism in general, it’s very difficult to explain novelty.”


“A psychedelic compound sitting on the shelf is not psychedelic. It’s in the interaction that you explore and discover its phenomenological features.”


“There’s no way out of environmental effects in the psychedelic experience - both in the set and setting, and in terms of whatever mysterious multiplicities lie in the material itself. So there’s no way to do capital S Science with psychedelics, despite the fact that they are material molecules that reliably have a certain kind of metabolic arc and can be explained in terms of how they are broken down in the body and even light up certain regions or the brain, etc., etc. I think it’s kind of wonderful. But I think that’s where the weird is: the weird is in that. The weird is in the way you can’t get out of the loop.”


Psychogenic Networks and Maximal Entropy Production.


“If attention is the fuel, then everywhere we turn, we’re producing self-fulfilling prophecies.”


Living Fictions.


Weird Studies Episode 36.


Lachmann et al. 1999 re: Optimal Encoding & Fermi’s Paradox & “The symbols of the divine first emerge in the trash stratum.”


“The revelation is always relativized. Once we’re in this cybernetic situation, then not only do we not know, ‘Is that noise or is that signal?,’ but even when you do get a message, you don’t get to know. Because you’ve knocked out that realm of certainty that in the past said, ‘What you’re thinking is true.’”


“Now we get to see what it looks like when the symbolic order, consensus reality, breaks down, melts, mutiplies, becomes weaponized, and we try to make our way through that. And it’s not so fun. It’s not so pretty. It’s not so groovy.”


Psychonautics as preparation for the insane world we now live in, where the weird has mainstreamed.

2019-11-27

132 - Erik Davis on Perturbations in the Reality Field

Ep. 132

This week’s guest is author, culture critic, and philosopher of the weird Erik Davis, whose work has been one of my main inspirations for almost ten years. His latest work of epic scholarship, High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies, is an exploration of topics I presumed inaccessible to academic inquiry so masterful I’ve been evangelizing it for months and basically forced a copy on my boss (David Krakauer, President of the Santa Fe Institute, who was a guest in Episode 75). In this episode we peer into the intersection of psychedelics, madness, systems science, postmodernism, and religious studies to ask about the truly other that refuses to allow us a clean answer to the questions, “What is the Real?” and “Did that just really happen?” Strap in for one of the headiest and most important conversations that we’ve ever had on Future Fossils…


Join the Future Fossils Podcast Patreon for exclusive perks like an extra 10 minutes of this conversation, in which Erik & Michael discuss “black goo.”


Visit Erik’s website to sign up for his email updates (always wonderful) and stay abreast of upcoming events, such as his talk at the SF Psychedelic Society on Thursday Dec 19.


Get a copy of High Weirdness at MIT Press.


Erik’s appearance on Future Fossils Episode 99 (a kind of prequel to this conversation).


My 2011 and 2012 appearances on Erik’s podcast, Expanding Mind.


Erik and I discuss over video chat (part 1, part 2) the revised and expanded third edition of his book Techgnosis: Myth, Magic, and Mysticism in the Age of Information.


Shop through my Amazon storefront and support the show indirectly with your purchases:

https://amazon.com/storefront/michaelgarfield


Join the Future Fossils Facebook Discussion Group

https://facebook.com/groups/futurefossils


Show music by Evan “Skytree” Snyder feat. Michael Garfield, “God Detector”

https://skytree.bandcamp.com/track/god-detector-ft-michael-garfield


Mentioned:


Jacques Lacan. Mark Fisher. Carol Cusack. Eric Wargo. Timothy Morton. Graham Harman. Jeff Kripal. Emelie Gomar. Bruno Latour. Albert Hofmann. Sasha Shulgin. Richard Doyle. Williiam James. Phil Dick. Cesar Hidalgo. Rachel Armstrong. Edward Snowden. Daniel Paul Schraber. 


We Discuss:


The abyss is close to home.


“The real, by definition, is not amenable to symbolization. Whatever kind of yen we have to sustain the symbolic in the face of the real is going to fail. And in that sense, the real is fundamentally traumatic.”


Perturbations of the reality field.


Extimacy.


“That’s not me…or if it is, I’m not me anymore.”


Refusing to remain within the purely human. To lean out. To open a portal.


The Weird vs. The Uncanny.


Fiction vs. Religion.


“In some sense Burning Man and the spirituality of Burning Man, if you want to call it that – the invention of new subjectivities, the development of an ecstatic culture at this end stage of capitalism and modern mythology – in a way is a kind of later iteration of the things I saw in the 70s.”


Material agency in the practice of science. “Science is not practiced by humans alone.” “Drugs as active participants in the enactment of their effects.”


“The thing about thinking is that sometimes it’s really clear the way you are actively putting things together, or actively exploring. But then sometimes it seems as if you are almost kind of taken over by an idea, and then the idea has stuff it wants to do, and you are just the connector or vehicle for it. What it means to think is to be in relationship to enigmas that have things to say.”


“With reductionism in general, it’s very difficult to explain novelty.”


“A psychedelic compound sitting on the shelf is not psychedelic. It’s in the interaction that you explore and discover its phenomenological features.”


“There’s no way out of environmental effects in the psychedelic experience - both in the set and setting, and in terms of whatever mysterious multiplicities lie in the material itself. So there’s no way to do capital S Science with psychedelics, despite the fact that they are material molecules that reliably have a certain kind of metabolic arc and can be explained in terms of how they are broken down in the body and even light up certain regions or the brain, etc., etc. I think it’s kind of wonderful. But I think that’s where the weird is: the weird is in that. The weird is in the way you can’t get out of the loop.”


Psychogenic Networks and Maximal Entropy Production.


“If attention is the fuel, then everywhere we turn, we’re producing self-fulfilling prophecies.”


Living Fictions.


Weird Studies Episode 36.


Lachmann et al. 1999 re: Optimal Encoding & Fermi’s Paradox & “The symbols of the divine first emerge in the trash stratum.”


“The revelation is always relativized. Once we’re in this cybernetic situation, then not only do we not know, ‘Is that noise or is that signal?,’ but even when you do get a message, you don’t get to know. Because you’ve knocked out that realm of certainty that in the past said, ‘What you’re thinking is true.’”


“Now we get to see what it looks like when the symbolic order, consensus reality, breaks down, melts, mutiplies, becomes weaponized, and we try to make our way through that. And it’s not so fun. It’s not so pretty. It’s not so groovy.”


Psychonautics as preparation for the insane world we now live in, where the weird has mainstreamed.

2019-11-15

131 - Jessica Nielson & Link Swanson on Psychedelic Science & Too Much Novelty

Ep. 131

What’s the line between being inspired and getting broken by transcendental experience? This week’s episode was recorded live at the Hook & Ladder at Minneapolis as part of a special multimedia event I did with the Psychedelic Society of Minneapolis, a group led by neuroscientist Jessica Nielson. Jessica and her PhD student Link Swanson were both dear friends of mine before they met each other and I cannot be happier that they’re doing psychedelic neuroscience research together now at UMN. In this conversation, which involves me definitely talking too much (but in the role of honored out-of-town guest, which makes it somewhat excusable), we talk about the effects of psychedelics on perception, the continua between inspiration and trauma, and what it might mean to make a machine learning algorithm trip balls. Among other things…


Dr. Jessica Nielson

https://med.umn.edu/bio/psychiatry/jessica-nielson


Link Swanson

https://swanson.link/


The Psychedelic Society of Minneapolis

https://www.meetup.com/Psychedelic-Society-of-Minneapolis/


Support Future Fossils on Patreon for over a dozen exclusive episodes, original art and music, and more:

https://patreon.com/michaelgarfield


Shop through my Amazon storefront and support the show indirectly with your purchases:

https://amazon.com/storefront/michaelgarfield


Show music by Evan “Skytree” Snyder feat. Michael Garfield, “God Detector”

https://skytree.bandcamp.com/track/god-detector-ft-michael-garfield


Discussed:


The hallucination-perception continuum

Trauma and novelty in biological and cultural evolution

The Stoned Ape Hypothesis Revived

Chapel Perilous & studying mental illness with machine learning

Do psychosis and the psychedelic state really have much in common?

Making AI trip

How do psychedelics affect the way our brain processes perception?

Pharmacogenomics and whether it might help explain The Experiment at La Chorrera

Novelty and the collapse of civilizations

Evolution, learning, and addiction


Mentioned:


Saj Razvi (Our free and public Patreon discussion) • MAPS • Santa Fe Institute (FF Episode 75) • Andreas Wagner • Terence McKenna • Stuart Kauffman (FF Episode 125) • Stuff To Blow Your Mind Podcast on Urban Animals • Werner Herzog • Dinotasia • Richard Doyle • Erowid • Robert Anton Wilson • Dennis McKenna (FF Episode 88) • Geoffrey West • Rudolf Steiner

2019-11-4

130 - Lydia Laurenson on Identity, Community, and The New Modality

Ep. 130

This week’s guest is writer Lydia Laurenson, editor of The New Modality, whose beat explores how people find and make meaningful lives in our era of change, anxiety, and new opportunity. For years Lydia also wrote a popular BDSM blog under the pseudonym Clarisse Thorn, an experience that has profoundly shaped the way she understands plural and mutable identity in the digital age — and the importance of protecting our right to act behind created identities in the web’s cultural commons. In this episode, we discuss the years of weird and wonderful adventures she’s had as a writer and a researcher of digital society, and how those experiences have shaped her vision for a new print magazine…


Join the show's proud roster of supporters: patreon.com/michaelgarfield

Theme music: “God Detector” by Evan Snyder feat. Michael Garfield


About The New Modality:

Kickstarter • Medium • Facebook • Twitter


Related Writings:


Lydia Laurenson:

“My Year in San Francisco's $2 Million Secret Society Startup”

The Atlantic article about internet pseudonyms and anonymity 

O'Reilly article about culture's impact on social media adoption 

Policy briefs on digital media governance and polarization

Clarisse Thorn’s Website


Michael Garfield:

The Future Acts Like You


Discussed:


The Latitude Society and postmodern startup esotericism.

Can we scale community? Can we continue to redefine ourselves in an increasingly regulated planet-scale society?

Pseudonymity and speaking freely on the Web…the importance of being able to explore new versions of yourself, to entertain a plural identity.

Reimagining the family. Coming to care about the conversation around alternative parenting approaches…having children without having a romantic relationship.

3+ parent families, platonic co-parenting, co-housing distributed childcare, and other forms of interdependence emerging in our pluralistic and atomized age.

Polarization, peacebuilding, and digital governance on social media.

The individual as institution, the long tail, Rule 34, and the future of evolutionary vascularization.

Can we design social media to help people respect each other more and foster better conversation? (And if so, why aren’t we doing it?)


Mentioned:


Erik Davis • Doug Rushkoff • Vice Magazine • Whitney Houston • Blade Runner 2049 • Hypermodernity • Lazarus (Graphic Novels) • Altered Carbon • Adam Curtis - Century of the Self • Her (movie) • John Perry Barlowe • Papadosio • Tricia Wang • Oprah • SXSW • The Benedict Option • Mirta Galesic • Pierre Teilhard de Chardin • Andrés Mora (writer) • Toda Peace Institute


Cover Photo by Jane Hu with Model Anina Net

http://janehu.com/ + http://www.anina.net/

2019-10-23

129 - How to Live in the Future (Michael Garfield at Boom Festival 2016)

Ep. 129

…in which I talk about Jurassic Park, Terminator, Pokémon, cat videos, Radiolab, Google, DARPA, Charles Stross, the Singularity, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Martine Rothblatt, Genesis P Orridge, neo-advaita nondual philosophy, and angels. (“Do you guys believe in angels?”)  


DISCUSSED:


Bringing Heart Back To Futurism. 

Technological Acceleration As Psychedelic Yoga. 

It Doesn’t Have To Be Either/Or. 

Scan Lovers. 

Can We Have Identity Politics In A Posthuman Society? 

Control or Liberation?


Recorded at Boom Festival's Liminal Village, 16 August 2016 — here’s the official Boom Festival video of the talk.


Originally published on my archive of public talks at bandcamp, this lecture became the basis for the essay series with the same name, which you can read on my Medium blog.


Support The Show: patreon.com/michaelgarfield


Theme Music: “God Detector” by Evan Snyder feat. Michael Garfield


QUOTES:


The future is an idea that is constructed socially, just as insanity is constructed socially.


Most people spend most of their time thinking about what the world we’re moving into is going to look like, and very little time thinking about what it’s going to FEEL like. Who we are going to be, once all this transformative change has settled into a newly-constituted world age?


It’s very telling that so much of the conversation around artificial intelligence is this notion that there’s some kind of demon emerging through the machine for us to encounter and to reckon with. That there is something we have to confront…something that may destroy us even as it transforms us. And I think that the problem here is that this is a half-chewed sandwich. We’re right there on the precipice of recognizing that we too are implicated in this global conspiracy, that we too are participating in the evolutionary process, and it falls upon us all to heal this alienation from the natural world – especially as it appears in non-human living systems and as it appears in non-human machine intelligences. And to recognize, first of all, that we are a function, we are an action, of Earth’s geology.


It’s by failing to identify our own transcendental nature – our own identity beyond the opposites of subject and object, self and other, nature and culture, the made and the born – that renders the transcendental as something against which the limited identity of the egoic self has to be defended. And so we experience what could be regarded as the emergence of a planetary Christ child – as the internet swallows us and we awaken together into this planetary identity, we experience this as the intrusion of a Borg mind or Terminator: Rise of the Machines. We are capable in our understandably anxious paranoid delusion of seeing only the demonic manifestation, because it’s so much easier to reject this kind of radical transformation than it is to embrace it and to steer it. And I’m hoping that by the end of this talk you all feel slightly more empowered to participate in this future, and to participate in the growing number of people worldwide that recognize that it falls upon us as we birth a new age, to love what we create. And to infuse it with love and creativity, and not to reject this baby, but to raise it right.


The mirror was believed to have terrifying spiritual properties: that a mirror can steal your soul, or that a vampire couldn’t be seen in a mirror because it had no soul. And likewise with the camera: anything that renders the previously unconscious as the conscious, anything that shows our selves to ourselves in a new way and thus creates an object out of what was originally the subject, a new “it” out of what was “I,” is going to appear to us as the monstrous.


As we become more transparent to one another, we become more accountable to one another. And the accountability is in some sense the masculine structure that we see growing as the companion to the desire to share with one another as a sort of feminine urge for intimacy.


As a river runs all possible ways down a mountain, the future will have more options for how to be a human being than before. It will have more ways for us to become partial and non-inclusive of the future than ever before.


We are becoming more and more compatible with the machine and it is becoming more and more compatible with us, in the same way that we domesticated corn and corn domesticated us.


We have this profound opportunity to invest as much beauty and love and creativity into this new space as we possibly can. 

2019-10-10

128 - Kevin Kelly on Evolving with Technology

Ep. 128

We live in an age of increasingly lively, intelligent, and responsive technologies, and have a lot of adjusting to do. This week’s guest is one of the major inspirations animating Future Fossils Podcast: Kevin Kelly, co-founder of the WELL, Senior Maverick at WIRED, author of numerous books that profoundly shaped my thinking about our coevolution with technology. After reading Kevin’s latest essay on the imminent challenges and opportunities of augmented reality – a superb rendering of the bizarre and wonderful new possibilities of a “mirrorworld” in which everything has an annotated digital double, constantly rewritten – I asked him to join me for a discussion of how our relationship to change is changing, what choice means in a world beyond control, how history becomes a verb amidst the metamorphosis, and how to properly engage these potent evolutionary tools we’re building…


Kevin’s Website:

https://kk.org


Support Future Fossils on Patreon for over a dozen exclusive episodes, book club membership, original art and music, and more:

https://patreon.com/michaelgarfield


Shop through my Amazon storefront and support the show indirectly with your purchases:

https://amazon.com/storefront/michaelgarfield


lntro music by Michael Garfield, “Undefeatable Optimism Gets Up After KO”

https://michaelgarfield.bandcamp.com/album/love-scenes-field-recordings


Outro music by Evan “Skytree” Snyder feat. Michael Garfield, “God Detector”

https://skytree.bandcamp.com/track/god-detector-ft-michael-garfield


We Discuss:


• How evolutionary technologies restore us to a kind of pre-modern relationship to living systems we use and depend upon, but do not control (growing tomatoes, raising livestock, having children).


• How do we understand choice and agency as cybernetic selves, all of our behavior informed by invisible or opaque entitities (like Cambridge Analytica, or simple GUI design)?


“We are both the creator and the created. We are both the parent and the child of ourselves. We are the masters of technology, and the slaves to it. And we will always be in that conflicted, two-faced relationship. That’s why we wring our hands, and we’ll be wringing our hands in a thousand years, because we can’t escape from the fact that we make our tools and our tools shape us.”


• If we are going to spend the rest of our lives as noobs in an ever-accelerating metamorphic world, what does that mean for our conceit of continuous identity?


“The question is not, ‘What does it mean to be human?’ but, ‘What do we want humans to be?’”


• How do we have the metaphysical conversations we need (about what we are, what matters) if we can’t agree on the objective ground truth?


“We have only one way to detect lies, which is retrospectively. So it’s almost impossible to ascertain, infallibly, the truth in the present. We can only trust sources that have proven to be reliable in the past, and that’s ultimately where the truth resides.”


“We can’t think our way out of these problems. We should think about them. We should try to forecast and analyze and quantify. But these things are so complex, they’re life life and a child growing up, that we have to experience our way through them. We have to engage with them through use to figure out what works and what doesn’t work.”


• The new superpowers and profound challenges (both practical and philosophical) afforded us by augmented reality and its attendant “mirrorworld” of spatial computing.


“The big problems that we’ll all be pulling our hair out about in twenty years will be ones we never thought of.”


“I’m for steering technology through engagement, through using it. I think if you don’t use something, you don’t get to steer it. That’s why prohibition, outlawing, regulating to a standstill are bad ideas. Because then you don’t get to steer.”


• The past and future of history-as-a-verb. Contingency vs. inevitability. How does Kelly situate himself in time?


“Most of my favorite people talking about the future are historians… The more I want to look into the future, the more I need to look into the past.”


“1% per year is all we need: if we create 1% more than we destroy every year, that’s all we need for civilization.”


• What is Kelly most concerned with communicating to the unborn future?

“The statistical destiny for most time capsules is to be forgotten. They’re buried and nobody remembers them. 95% of them are forgotten within 5 or 10 years. But the ones that are opened, you get to see this message from the past into the future. And almost invariably, the contents are not interesting to us now.”


Go Deeper:


Out of Control, New Rules for The New Economy, What Technology Wants, The Inevitable

https://kk.org/books/


The Expansion of Ignorance

http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/10/the_expansion_o.php


AR Will Spark the Next Big Tech Platform – Let’s Call it Mirrorworld

https://www.wired.com/story/mirrorworld-ar-next-big-tech-platform/


The End of Video as Evidence of Anything

https://kk.org/ct2/the-end-of-video-as-evidence-o/


Great Kevin Kelly interview with Smithsonian Magazine

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/wired-founder-kevin-kelly-on-technologies-that-will-dominate-our-future-180959708/


[video] HyperReality by Keiichi Matsuda

https://vimeo.com/166807261


The Future is Indistinguishable from Magic (by Michael Garfield)

https://medium.com/@michaelgarfield/the-future-is-indistinguishable-from-magic-5b9596a4ea


Being Every Drone (by Michael Garfield)

https://medium.com/@michaelgarfield/being-every-drone-the-future-of-xr-robotic-telepresence-19f12889da78


Future Fossils Episode 97 with Zak Stein

shows.pippa.io/futurefossils/97


Future Fossils Episode 91, An Oral History of the End of Reality (#deepfake #scifi)

shows.pippa.io/futurefossils/91


The Long Now Foundation

https://longnow.org

2019-9-28

127 - Cory Allen on Meditation, Music, and the Wow of Now

Ep. 127

This week’s guest is Cory Allen – mindfulness instructor, audio engineer, host of The Astral Hustle Podcast, binaural beats factory, and now the author of Now is the Way: An Unconventional Approach to Modern Mindfulness. We talk about cutting through the noise and insanity of our overwhelmed digital transition age with simple presence, the rewards of even minor and incremental acts of awareness, and the richness of expressive work created from a place of calm alertness.


Grab yourself a copy of Now is the Way from my Amazon storefront:

https://www.amazon.com/shop/michaelgarfield


I’m on Cory’s show in episodes 72 & 92:

http://www.cory-allen.com/theastralhustle


Cory’s on my show on episode 16:

http://shows.pippa.io/futurefossils/16


Discussed:


• What is the now?

• Is mindfulness about getting better at achieving goals, or is it really about something else?

• How has meditation practice changed in the age of always-on digital insanity?

• The collapse of past, present, and future into NOW and living in the bardo afterlife of the 21st Century.

• Getting over the infinite to-do list.

• Music as meditation vs. The Concept Album. Songwriting vs. temple music.

• Impermanence and cycles of creation/destruction in music.

• Create from where and what you are.

• Notes on the media diet for original thinking.


Support Future Fossils on Patreon for over a dozen exclusive episodes, book club membership, original art and music, and more:

https://patreon.com/michaelgarfield


lntro music by Michael Garfield, “Undefeatable Optimism Gets Up After KO”

https://michaelgarfield.bandcamp.com/album/love-scenes-field-recordings


Outro music by Evan “Skytree” Snyder feat. Michael Garfield, “God Detector”

https://skytree.bandcamp.com/track/god-detector-ft-michael-garfield


2019-9-18

126 - Phil Ford & JF Martel on Weird Studies & Plural Realities

Ep. 126

This week Future Fossils gets even weirder with guests Phil Ford and JF Martel, cohosts of the Weird Studies podcast. Weird Studies is one of my favorite shows, hands down. Phil and JF’s marvelous threading together of the joyful and the bleak, the transcendent and the hangdog, the gems of literature and the tentacles of the ineffable real, is a sorely needed tightrope walk in an era insistent on clean answers and decisive resolutions.


The modern world is a VERY weird place, and these two gentlemen are some of my most trusted curators of places to look and ways of seeing for thriving amidst that weirdness. In this episode, we explore (among other eldritch horrors) the irreducibility and always-ness of the weird; the historical and metabolic forces that join beauty and trauma; and the value of the stubbornly unassimilated fact and its adherents.


Dig into Weird Studies and become transformed:

https://weirdstudies.com


Support Future Fossils on Patreon for over a dozen exclusive episodes, book club membership, original art and music, and more:

https://patreon.com/michaelgarfield


Find all of the books we mention and support the show at no cost to yourself:

https://www.amazon.com/shop/michaelgarfield


A very thin slice of the topics we discuss:


JF on Future Fossils (episode 18 & episode 71)

MG on Weird Studies (episode 26)

Weird Studies on Marshall McLuhan

Weird Studies on William James

Erik Davis - High Weirdness (Future Fossils episode 99; Weird Studies episode 48)

Leonard Cohen - “Waiting for the Miracle”

Phil: “The seawall we build against the seething Lovecraftian whatever.”

Eric Wargo - Time Loops (episode 117)

Global Weirding

The Replication Crisis

Lady Chatterly’s Lover: “The cataclysm has happened. We are among the ruins.”

Richard Doyle - Darwin’s Pharmacy

Douglas Rushkoff - Present Shock (episode 67)

William Burroughs - Naked Lunch

Aleister Crowley

Jonathan Zap

Furtherrr Collective

Beauty & Danger

Theodor Adorno

Weird Consultants to help you organize for the unexpected

David Weinberger - Everyday Chaos (episode 123)


lntro music by Michael Garfield, “Undefeatable Optimism Gets Up After KO”

https://michaelgarfield.bandcamp.com/album/love-scenes-field-recordings


Outro music by Evan “Skytree” Snyder feat. Michael Garfield, “God Detector”

https://skytree.bandcamp.com/track/god-detector-ft-michael-garfield