The drum gear show

Drum Showroom is the drum gear show, hosted by lifelong drummer and audio technology leader Dan Radin. Each episode features a conversation with a drum maker, drum company rep, or drummer about the gear that inspires the... More

S3 E5 Pro Drum Tech (and Drum Showroom's own) Nate Testa

This week we're thrilled to turn the spotlight on one of our own, Nate Testa. An aspiring drum nerd from Kissimmee, FL, Nate runs social media for Drum Showroom and has built his new brand, Snare Geek to share his passion. Recently, Nate got the call he’d been praying for: the opportunity to participate on a national tour as a professional drum tech!

Nate is on tour with Blake Whiteley, teching for drummer Austin Ware and also running sound at Front of House. We talk foundations, lessons learned, Nate's love of the art of teardown, his favorite tools, stories from the road, the best thing he's eaten on tour, and more!

You can connect with and learn more about Nate Testa at His Instagrams are and, and his Facebook pages are and

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S3 E4 REMIX!!! INDe Drum Lab founder Josh Allen

Season 3, Ep. 4

In Season One, one of your favorite episodes was the one with Josh Allen, founder of INDe Drum Lab. So we’ve decided to remix it and make it more digestible. Let us know what you think at

Josh decided that staying at Ludwig was holding him back from creating something that was truly his due to the brand’s amazing history and lineage. He wanted more of a clean slate from which to create.

Despite his corporate management and design expertise, at his core, Josh is a builder. He thinks in solutions to problems that take form as physical products. And he’s not unwilling to be honest with himself about where needs to work the hardest.

There’s a section of the INDe site at titled, “Tech, Design and Nerdery.” I couldn’t think of a more fitting headline for talking shop with Josh. It got very geeky. If you love the nuts and bolts of drums, you’re really going to enjoy Josh Allen’s design philosophy.

Josh’s comes from an industrial design background. Industrial designers focus on the physical embodiment of the design. What does it look like? What is it made out of? What does it feel like in the hand? By contrast, mechanical engineers think in terms of function. How does this thing work? I enjoyed talking to Josh because he can talk like both an industrial designer, which is is by education, but also as a mechanical designer.

One of the things many drum companies focus on in their marketing is their bearing edges. And Josh has a really succinct, clear way of talking about the function and variables that matter in bearing-edge design.

What I think impressed me the most in talking with Josh is how he is just a systems thinker. He’s not just thinking about the systems that make up a great drum, but he’s also engineering a great drum ownership experience through INDe’s business model.

Learn more about Josh and INDe Drum Lab at

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S3 E3 Tackle Instrument founder Scott McPherson

Season 3, Ep. 3

Chances are, you’ve seen a recent influx of classic-looking waxed canvas and leather-trimmed stick bags, cymbal bags, and other thoughtful accessories in your drum shop or Instagram feed. Maybe you first noticed Carter MacLean or Mike Johnston using them. Or maybe you saw them in Steve Maxwell’s fine shops in New York and Chicago. In any case, it feels like everywhere you go, you see Tackle Instrument Supply Company’s wares.

You probably know the name, but you might not know that behind Tackle is a professional touring drummer named Scott McPherson. Scott came out of Portland, and now lives and operates Tackle from Minneapolis. Scott has built long-term playing relationships with Elliott Smith, Bright Eyes, She & Him, Beck and many others. And when Scott came through Asheville with the “Him” of She & Him, M. Ward, he sat down for breakfast and some conversation that I really enjoyed.

And in case you’re not aware, Tackle produces some things you’re probably familiar with, like stick bags and cymbal bags; accessories like bass drum hoop protectors, impact patches, and cymbal sizzlers; and also a third category of unique problem solvers that only could come from the mind of somebody who has dedicated themself to the craft of performance at the drums. Tackle’s Gig Pouch, Gig Pocket, Shop Rag, leather cymbal washers, and other items all help drummers with the problems they face performing, setting up, and moving their drums.

Thanks to Green Sage Cafe for letting us sit and record… and thanks to this week’s audio producer, Ben Etter, for cleaning and processing the background noise! Here’s Scott McPherson of Tackle Instrument, and this is Drum Showroom.

I want to thank Scott McPherson for being so generous with his time. Not only did we talk for literally a couple of hours, but we also hung out for lunch and checked out some antiques, and then he invited my wife and me to see him perform that night at Asheville’s famous Orange Peel rock club with M Ward. Scott’s a no-nonsense player with superb musicality, selflessness, and tone for days. He sounded great.

You can learn more about Tackle Instrument at and tackle_instrument on Instagram.

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