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Sexuality, Happiness and being true to yourself #13

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Tagline “I dont want it to define me. I don’t think anyone should let it define them in life. I don’t want it to be oh yeah Nick Hall who’s gay” ...


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Find your voice - Episode 13


Nick Hall, is a successful individual who has had a very colourful career which has seen him start and sell businesses whilst finding his own true happiness.


Overcoming and understanding himself growing up, Nick talks about his sexuality and how he embraced that and found true happiness in his life.


A fascinating individual, who sees the world in a unique and great way! A keen eye for property too, Nick has also made his own homes under the hammer renovations along with helping me personally in my own property ventures.


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[Music]

 

welcome to an episode of find your voice

 

a movement led by yours truly

 

Aren do a guy who has overcome

 

crippling anxiety adversity and

 

difficulty like so many of you in life

 

whose main goal now is to help you

 

combat your excuses take control of your

 

life write your own story and most

 

importantly find your voice so now

 

without further ado I welcome the host

 

of the show himself mr. Aren do the

 

host of this show so I am extremely

 

excited to bring my guest onto the show

 

today because it's somebody who's going

 

to be sharing a very very sensitive

 

subject and it's a subject that's going

 

to relate to many people out there

 

whether you're experiencing it yourself

 

or whether it's one of your friends or

 

family now the beautiful thing is not

 

just the story and the person behind the

 

story who is a fascinating character and

 

doing incredible things in the world

 

and really kind of found his own voice I

 

suppose it's how actually met him now I

 

am a firm believer in trying to find

 

positives in every situation that you're

 

in because it's so easy to often

 

exaggerate the problems and the

 

obstacles that were going through and

 

I'd say in my career as a property

 

investor my probably most stressful 2 or

 

3 months was when I met this individual

 

and the only silver lining I had within

 

those two or three months was my

 

relationship with this individual now

 

Nick

 

managed to help me sell my nightmare

 

house and he did it with brilliant

 

customer service to the point that we

 

actually built a rapport and Nick

 

reached out recently and we kind of had

 

conversations back and forth and I just

 

thought his story is fantastic it's also

 

different to any of the other stories

 

that we've had on this show so hopefully

 

you guys resonate with it

 

I am confident you're gonna find he's

 

honesty and he's courage commendable so

 

I'm gonna leave it there and we're gonna

 

jump straight into this episode I find

 

your voice okay so I'd just like to

 

welcome Nick to the show today so thank

 

you Nick for coming on

 

and sharing your story how are you doing

 

today I'm great

 

thanks for having me Irene it's an

 

absolute honor to echo and support you

 

with this

 

you're very welcome thank you as well so

 

I think it's important before we start

 

to obviously give the listeners a little

 

bit of insight in relation to who dig

 

hole is so if you wouldn't mind if you

 

could just kind of give the listeners

 

and myself actually a little bit about

 

yourself how you progress through life

 

and kind of ended up where you are today

 

yeah of course

 

so when terms of who I am what I do so

 

background I suppose starting from sort

 

of where I grew up so I've grown up in

 

sort of a relatively middle-class

 

environment in a in a village so to say

 

on the edge of stoke-on-trent so just

 

into the stuffs Moreland's

 

m and most recently I'm working in

 

telecoms that are do some bits of

 

business on the side so I'll go back and

 

talk to you about what I've done in

 

detail to get me from there to where I

 

am today so the sort of environment that

 

I grew up in I would say is very

 

traditional so here you you standard

 

Church of England school the lads play

 

football and the girls play netball and

 

I I didn't do either of those so I

 

didn't fit in but I didn't conform to

 

their to the norm so to say and then

 

after school and I came out with

 

relatively I would say a ver Ajay mean I

 

passed all my subjects at GCSE level

 

grade C or above progressed onto to

 

college straight after school and then

 

absolutely hated it again just didn't

 

feel like I fitted in so I took a year

 

out and when it did some hard work for

 

you and worked in a supermarket and quit

 

and then produce Department lumbering

 

sacks of potatoes around and I actually

 

talking about the value of the pound

 

yeah

 

actually worked with money in the real

 

world so quite quickly realized that I

 

wanted to go

 

to education and from there went in

 

study Business Studies a level and then

 

went on to university em that didn't

 

actually move away when I went to

 

university state local at staffs

 

probably didn't have the confidence to

 

to go and live outside of the area and

 

then after University I got offered I

 

did the Graduate scheme and I was still

 

working for Maury supermarkets at the

 

time I did their grad scheme and got

 

offered a role at their HQ in Bradford

 

and didn't go for it cuz he didn't pay

 

enough money basically and then I got

 

offered a job locally working for

 

phones4u which is owned by their John

 

Caldwell though I'm sure everyone in

 

business net was a billionaire now went

 

into work for this organization and

 

there was something just magical about

 

the culture I went in as a trainee

 

salesperson and they they taught me

 

everything I know about sales and I've

 

sort of progressed through telecoms in

 

the sales environment done various roles

 

sales management head of sales

 

got extremely stressed doing the head of

 

sales were all under 30 and decided that

 

I wanted to take a bit of a step back

 

and then I'm now working in one of the

 

biggest telecom providers in the UK and

 

I'm doing a less less senior role buddy

 

it sort of gives me the flexibility to

 

do stuff outside I could work as well

 

and I suppose that's coming on to what I

 

also do as well and outside of work I'm

 

I'm really passionate about property

 

stems from probably the first house that

 

I bought where the position that I was

 

in was the idea I was forced it didn't

 

have the money to to buy a decent

 

property so out to buy something that

 

was rundown and they've got the Bob bug

 

for sort of development renovation from

 

their doing I've done various properties

 

now to the point where I am where am I

 

live in and in a in a relatively decent

 

house they want a big

 

probably doing about 5 refurbishments

 

and renovations that have enabled me to

 

live in the property that I live in now

 

on a bill up a nice little equity part

 

as well last year for the last year or

 

two I had an estate agents business as

 

well I started up on the side and the

 

aim with that was to to hopefully get

 

out of than the nine-to-five job that

 

I'm doing and again learned a massive

 

lesson from that because I realized how

 

hard you actually have to work to where

 

to win in your own business absolutely

 

yeah and to be honest it wasn't easy and

 

it wasn't going to be easy and I wasn't

 

gonna become a millionaire any time soon

 

or even overnight or any time in the

 

next few years from that so I had an

 

opportunity to sell the business which

 

it did do at the end of last year and

 

have come become career focused again

 

this year I'm not going to say it's

 

gonna be a real long term strategy but

 

I've just taken on a new role that gives

 

me something to really get my teeth into

 

and then the property thing they'll

 

always bubble along the side and

 

personal that's interesting because then

 

it was actually property where where you

 

and I actually met and I could tell your

 

sales experience obviously came in

 

because you were able to sell what I

 

consider my nightmare house which I

 

couldn't get rid of and and you sold it

 

pretty quickly because mate that has

 

caused me more stress than anything and

 

in relation to your renovations as well

 

for anyone that's on Facebook I've seen

 

some of your your renovations your

 

kitchens especially and then they look

 

absolutely fab so you've obviously got a

 

knack for it there something I wish I

 

had when I first started renovating

 

myself and I just want to touch on

 

something so you said you always kind of

 

never thought you could be fitted in and

 

you mentioned the whole zero typical

 

boys play football the girls play

 

netball and then later on you touch the

 

game that you didn't have the confidence

 

to perhaps maybe move out of your

 

university is there a particular reason

 

in relation to that or was it just like

 

anxiety I mean what was

 

what was that feeling where you're

 

saying you didn't feel you fitted in

 

because I'm pretty sure there's people

 

listening to this now you might have had

 

that same situation yeah I mean looking

 

back now I was because I'm gay and I

 

obviously always knew that there was

 

something different about me but I

 

wasn't him

 

experienced mature I suppose they're the

 

best way he's supportive and I wasn't

 

experienced or mature enough to

 

understand what that meant for me so I

 

always do that I mean don't get me wrong

 

I don't have not gone through life being

 

an outcast or anything like what I have

 

those environments always just sort of

 

felt like I didn't feel like a hundred

 

percent you know why okay just felt

 

different I supposed yeah mmm okay

 

that's interesting I mean if you

 

wouldn't mind if I just asked a little

 

bit about that yeah cause I'm certain

 

there's thousands of people out there

 

who probably won't be the same situation

 

when you're thinking why am i feeling

 

different to perhaps what people would

 

consider the general consensus what

 

advice would you give to somebody like

 

that I mean was it something that you

 

were able to kind of come out with

 

straight away or is it something that

 

you kind of held in there I think you

 

are and don't get me wrong I do even in

 

from our generation to today I do

 

believe times have changed a little bit

 

but there's always a stereotype of which

 

you are forced to live by or expected to

 

live by I won't say forced I'll say

 

expected to live by yeah and I think

 

that mentality comes to the front even

 

more sevens in sort of small village

 

environment something in the area that I

 

grew up in it was a case of as I said

 

the boys play football the girls play

 

netball and this kind of if you didn't

 

do either you a bit weird you are or

 

you're not conforming to the norm so I

 

think if I'm if there's anybody who's in

 

that position and you feel like you

 

don't fit in it's a bit cliche but don't

 

be afraid to be different because

 

some people are born to stand out and

 

you need to sort of you need to

 

recognize that and stand up to it and do

 

the things that give you the confidence

 

to do that I love that I think I think

 

you just hit great note there don't be

 

afraid to be different because even for

 

myself from my experience you grow up

 

always trying to fit in it's kind of

 

like because you want to be part of the

 

maybe the popular gang were just where

 

it's safe I suppose because nobody wants

 

to get bullied everyone wants to have

 

relationships yeah I find myself now as

 

an adult trying almost not to fit in in

 

terms of bringing my own authenticity to

 

the marketplace to my branding and

 

everything else so it's just funny how

 

the world works and I think I'm not sure

 

if you I can you mentioned like at that

 

age your intelligence as a child and

 

stuff is probably different when you

 

grow up and you realize what's actually

 

important here and the most important

 

thing for me and I'm sure you probably

 

agree to some extent is how we view

 

ourselves I think that's the most

 

important thing yeah 100% and that age

 

you don't want to be picked out of the

 

crowd and at the point that we a minute

 

live in life now it's almost that we

 

don't necessarily want to stand out but

 

I feel myself that it's good to be

 

different and to have your own personal

 

brand and to be true to yourself who you

 

are then that that gives you a sense of

 

fulfillment

 

I suppose is the best way to put it I

 

think I think you're right maybe it

 

gives you authentically as well in the

 

world where everyone's trying to but

 

this persona of who they are or the day

 

that they live in somebody who's just

 

refreshingly themselves every single day

 

whether it's good bad or whatever it is

 

I just find that I just find that nice

 

and I think the world would benefit more

 

from people just not trying to put a

 

mask on because I don't know about you

 

but I find it hard enough just trying to

 

manage my own life rather than trying to

 

be somebody else for the public it's

 

it's just an energy drain so no I

 

appreciate that can I just ask one more

 

question on that if you wouldn't mind

 

yeah yeah so you've come from a small

 

village now I'm using my stereotypical

 

background as well so I'm I'm Indian and

 

we come from a community where everyone

 

knows everyone's business so when you do

 

something that it

 

doesn't gold with the norm so for

 

example if I use myself I got married

 

out of religion now I'm not a religious

 

person and anyone that knows me knows I

 

don't really follow religion so when I

 

did that it was it was a massive massive

 

thing again it was difficult I had

 

sleepless nights before and again it was

 

more about what are people going to

 

think and what is going to bring to my

 

family did you ever experience any sort

 

of controversy or adversity in relation

 

to you perhaps coming out or was your

 

family and your community very

 

supportive of yourself yeah I think the

 

worst part by far is the fear of coming

 

out than the actual coming out itself

 

yeah because for me I didn't really have

 

to come out I didn't have to stand on a

 

platform and announce it and I didn't

 

feel that that was the right way for me

 

to do it anyway that just it that didn't

 

happen for me it happened naturally okay

 

I came to a point in my life where I was

 

comfortable 100% comfortable with who I

 

am and I had the confidence to be myself

 

and what that meant was it some people

 

knew to be honest and and some people

 

didn't know I lost friends over it

 

people just stopped talking to me I

 

think and it genuinely sat here today it

 

doesn't hurt me one bit because I know

 

that it was just meant to be yeah

 

absolutely and again I just want to

 

implore anyone who is listening who may

 

be going through a situation whether it

 

is about this sexuality or whether it is

 

about anything else whether you consider

 

yourself different to really kind of I

 

suppose Jesus said than done as an adult

 

but really try and overcome that fear

 

because you touched on something that

 

the fear of it is actually worse than

 

the actual experience itself and I've

 

had to overcome and do things that I've

 

always been afraid of prior to the

 

actual decision and a bit like what you

 

just said there's as soon as you make

 

that decision it's actually not as bad

 

as you'd initially thought so I would

 

always tell people if they can you know

 

maybe adopt a mount

 

robbins approach which is kind of like

 

she counts backwards from five four

 

three two one and then all of a sudden

 

beam whatever's in

 

that she wants to say she says it I

 

think life's too short for us to kind of

 

live in fear of judgment and other

 

things I'm not sure if you agree with

 

that 100% and I think the in terms of

 

the people out there who might be

 

feeling like I genuinely would be happy

 

to speak to anyone who who feels that

 

they're in that situation and and talked

 

to them about my experience in more

 

detail if it helps them sort of progress

 

towards where they want to be I'll be

 

more than happy to do that that's

 

fantastic

 

I'm sure they'll appreciate that and

 

obviously at the end of the show we'll

 

put all your show notes and how they can

 

contact you so prepare yourself mate

 

hopefully if the episode goes well

 

you're gonna get an influence of the

 

direct messages but no I think somebody

 

who's been through something that

 

they'll just be able to give so much

 

better advice rather than just picking

 

up a book or reading a post online so

 

thank you for your handout yeah and it

 

is difficult because if you're in a

 

position where you are afraid of of

 

admitting something to the outside world

 

then some people will challenge you on

 

it sometimes and they will offer to talk

 

to you about it you've got to be ready

 

to talk yourself so if ever if ever

 

somebody needs that yeah then I'd be

 

more than happy to do that thank you

 

thank you Nick brilliant okay so I want

 

to just switch the conversation just

 

ever so slightly in relation to your

 

work and stuff so you've you've mastered

 

homes under the hammer a lot better than

 

I have and you've got yourself some

 

sales experience you're now in the new

 

role which you're thriving off I'm just

 

curious to know and I'm always

 

fascinated by people who are doing

 

different things or people who I

 

consider successful and I've considered

 

success as a sort of you doing what you

 

want to do for yourself and it's

 

basically you're making your own

 

decisions in terms of moving forward and

 

progressing on a daily basis so if you

 

could just kind of give us a day in the

 

life of Nicole from say for instance the

 

moment you wake up if you've got any

 

particular habits or traits that you

 

think maybe could help other people if

 

they wanted to kind of replicate your

 

success up until now

 

yeah I mean I definitely don't consider

 

myself hugely successful and it's an

 

honour for you to even put me in that

 

bracket

 

just quite normal to be honest okay but

 

I mean I'm definitely an early riser I'm

 

somebody who likes to get up early I

 

love to see the Sun Rise morning and not

 

so much in the summer when it's really

 

rising it hot this time of year when the

 

sun's rising and just before 7:00 a.m.

 

it's nice to just get up and go and sit

 

in my kitchen and I've got some great

 

views and we catch the Sun eise's and

 

just sit and have a cup of coffee and

 

just reflect at that time in the morning

 

and whether it be just catching up on

 

the news doing some banking at any sort

 

of admin that's gonna give me a great

 

spot today I really do enjoy sort of

 

having that foundation to the day to be

 

honest after that point I feel like I

 

should be exercising and I'm moved house

 

last August and I've moved probably

 

about 20 miles away from where you used

 

to live and I'm in a village which is

 

pretty much in the middle of nowhere

 

right the nearest gym is 14 miles away

 

so I'm struggling to find that

 

motivation to exercise at the moment

 

because I'm not near a gym I never can

 

actually go out and go and walk and run

 

and things like Apple with the with the

 

winter as it's been not the opportunity

 

to do that so a key thing for me that I

 

want to focus on in this year it is

 

exercise and fitting that back into my

 

routine because that would be great to

 

do that at that point and then in terms

 

of moving on from there I mean I

 

generally just would move into what is a

 

pretty normal working day to my day is

 

made up of meetings pretty much all over

 

the UK because to work for a

 

multinational business and I might be

 

working from home or I could be in

 

Edinburgh or London so I can have a day

 

that starts at 5:00 a.m. oh I've got to

 

go and catch a flight or train or I can

 

have a nice relaxed day where I'm

 

getting offered sort of the time that I

 

said and then sitting in just a night or

 

five from the kitchen table if it is

 

that I'm not actually working then

 

ideally for me every traveling okay a

 

lot of miles and the continent in the

 

turbulent yeah yeah yeah job yeah do you

 

listen to any audio balls or podcasts or

 

anything like that always it just

 

literally music on the road I'm a visual

 

person so for me I rather than I mean

 

I've I've always tried to read and I

 

just find it so difficult to put my not

 

put my time to sit and absorb a book so

 

I'm visual so for me I'm a documentary

 

sort of person okay I've watched

 

probably every documentary going on

 

Netflix on every topic possible so I

 

would if there's something that I'm

 

interested in I find it far easier to

 

watch a documentary on it rather than to

 

read a book on it okay that's

 

interesting I can't read myself to be

 

honest I use audio book for everything

 

similar to yourself

 

ie well I used to be on the road a lot

 

so for me it was kind of an opportunity

 

I supposed to kind of kill two birds

 

with one stone I'd always listen to

 

audiobooks I do need to get on the

 

Netflix documentaries I heard there's

 

some fascinating ones but I just wanna

 

quickly touch on something there so

 

you've got some traits there so the

 

whole reflection and the early rising

 

that's quite common amongst people who

 

are trying to do more in life there is

 

one thing I want to do a little

 

shameless plug on is the exercise bit so

 

I'm a massive massive advocate that we

 

should always prioritize our health

 

before everything and when I say how if

 

I don't just mean your physical house I

 

mean your mental health as well but yeah

 

you've said something there and this is

 

just my advice as a friend is the gym is

 

far away well mate if you go on my

 

youtube channel I have some videos which

 

will tell you how to work out from the

 

comfort of your own home so I want to

 

see you doing those I'm gonna see you in

 

star jumps in your next post yeah and as

 

I said make that a hundred percent is a

 

target of mine for 2019 and the mean

 

talking about mindset as well I find

 

setting personal towards a great way to

 

motivate myself I mean when I set up the

 

business that said at the beginning the

 

year target for me this years to set up

 

a business alongside work and estate

 

agents evolved from and then this this

 

is my target for this year to get back

 

to fitness again fantastic just in

 

relation to the business one have you

 

ever set up a business before or is that

 

you you set yourself a target and a boom

 

you just went out and figured it out yes

 

and literally do the estate agent are

 

set up from scratch I just came up with

 

the concept the Brandon sat down with a

 

graphic designer who bought it all to

 

lie for me but I came up with a concept

 

that was completely unique and then you

 

in the UK no other estate agent in the

 

country was doing it and that was for

 

the client to be able to choose the

 

estate agent board that sits outside the

 

property the color of it yeah and and

 

that was extremely successful and it was

 

a huge USP for the business and in a

 

market that is so saturated yeah exactly

 

saturated it was a USP and something

 

that stood me above the competition it

 

was something that had started online

 

started out the spare bedroom at my old

 

property and and grew it to a position

 

that it was a business that could be

 

sold on that's fascinating to me because

 

you're you'll meet many people and if

 

people just sit here today and think

 

about the times in the last seven days

 

but somebody's told them about a

 

business idea or they want to do this or

 

they want to become this and then

 

actually see whether they go and follow

 

that through it's very very slim that

 

those people do it so for me obviously

 

business my staff now I find it very

 

very difficult there's a lot there's a

 

lot of cogs to it and I think you

 

touched on it earlier that in terms of

 

making the same money that you're making

 

you notified there's a hell of a lot

 

more hard work involved so for you to be

 

able to do that on this side one it kind

 

of I always think if people have got an

 

excuse they haven't because if they

 

listen to you now you know you're

 

working full-time and you set yourself

 

up a successful business which I just

 

find that really inspiring and would you

 

have any tips for anyone is it just

 

literally google it because I would say

 

google it everything's on Google get out

 

there Network speak to people is that

 

kind of your best approach yeah a

 

hundred percent I mean definitely I

 

agree that everything's on Google now

 

you've just gotta go out I mean for me

 

there was something inside me telling me

 

that I needed to do to do something to

 

fulfill me over and above what I was

 

getting from my nine till five at the

 

time so I I am quite a visual person as

 

I've said so I sat and you my maps I was

 

like what are the potential ideas for a

 

business that the it could give me what

 

I want so I came up with the sort of

 

events business came up with the estate

 

agents I came up with a recruitment

 

business and everything just brought me

 

back to a state agency because of the

 

passion that I've got on the side

 

property property so from there I just I

 

went and so what I wanted to do is

 

understand what do you need to do to set

 

up a successful estate agent so the

 

first thing is I needed to get qualified

 

as an estate agent so I had to go and do

 

the qualifications alongside work set

 

myself up as a director of a limited

 

company and and just brought to life the

 

the concept that had come up with him

 

surround yourself with a successful team

 

and for me that was having a really good

 

graphic designer

 

bring all the concepts to life and then

 

the subcontractors who work for the

 

business as well so I was pride in

 

myself on photography particularly so I

 

went out and I found I found the best

 

photographer in the local area had to

 

pay more to do that but when there was a

 

buzz created about the business the

 

photography was one of the things that

 

people were talking about fantastic

 

that's brilliant I think there's a

 

blueprint they obviously for people who

 

may have something inside them which

 

makes them want to maybe go out there

 

and do a business and you just touched

 

on a point which is something that I

 

always tell everyone is surround

 

yourself with a successful team because

 

you can't do anything alone in this

 

world especially if you're trying to get

 

rid of your 9 to 5 so I always try and

 

do that I always try and I know it's a

 

cliche but I was try and surround myself

 

with people who are cleverer than me you

 

have done more than me because that way

 

it kind of forces me to grow it keeps me

 

accountable as well and at the same time

 

I'm learning as opposed to you kind of

 

be in the cleverest in the room a

 

hundred percent and the thing the thing

 

is it massively surround yourself by

 

people who motivate you to better the

 

position that you're in and just just

 

one point on what you were saying about

 

the successful team is having the

 

ability or the experience to to

 

recognize that team and to be able to

 

select the team as well because it's

 

easy to go out there

 

and for example get a photographer but

 

without understanding their background

 

in their experience and where they've

 

been successful it's difficult to know

 

whether to bring them into your team or

 

not

 

I think trades people is a perfect

 

example and what we experienced with you

 

on the property that I was like yeah

 

there's so many Cowboys out there and so

 

many people who are not performing as

 

they should do I think I think they're

 

all just kind of playing the small game

 

and so for me it's if I was a tradesman

 

and this is just my trail of thought is

 

if I'm gonna work with someone if worst

 

case scenario that the projects going a

 

little bit tits up which they sometimes

 

do and it could be of through no fault

 

of anybody's I would still try and

 

continue to over-deliver because then

 

you've got more chance of repeat

 

business and what I tend to see is

 

people will happily exploit people for a

 

quick dollar that that month or that

 

week just to kind of maybe pay for their

 

bills and so they can go drinking on the

 

weekend and then all of a sudden

 

somebody's losing out there whether it's

 

repeat business or whether it's the

 

customer or something and yeah and that

 

reputation so building a reputation

 

again is another key element of it

 

because if you go out and and you rip

 

someone off on day one you're never

 

gonna get to day 100 absolutely great

 

just like that not actually just be from

 

a shift gears a little bit I have

 

finally managed to find a good build and

 

a good trades team and I'm actually what

 

I've actually done is similar to you

 

don't let go of him may I haven't so

 

what I did is I set up a business and I

 

became business partners with him

 

because I was like listen I need to keep

 

you here one because I trust you in your

 

works fantastic you can do this side of

 

it what I do is I use my whole branding

 

and my project management experience to

 

kind of get the clients in so we kind of

 

work hand in hand but mate I've had to

 

get so many bad frogs but yeah I'm not

 

gonna let go now and in property that

 

that's the perfect mix it's great for

 

somebody like yourself who's got a huge

 

amount of experience and in marketing to

 

partner up with somebody who's got the

 

skills in the experience on the

 

technical side of it absolutely together

 

you've created that perfect team

 

absolutely I'm grateful now for where

 

I'm I suppose I'm so grateful for all

 

the lessons because if I hadn't have

 

gone through what I did I wouldn't be

 

where I am today at the same time I

 

wouldn't even be speaking to yourself so

 

you know

 

everything happens for a reason I'm a

 

firm believer of that exactly I mean if

 

I hadn't done what I'd done on the side

 

and you had done what you're doing we

 

would never have cross paths absolutely

 

made so I'm grateful for all my

 

experiences it's obvious now then so

 

you've had a very colorful life we lines

 

ups and downs and you've done quite a

 

bit actually a little bit like myself I

 

always think I've managed to cram so

 

much in so quickly so yeah you could

 

tell us of a recent adversity that

 

you've been through and then what's your

 

approach when you're up against an

 

obstacle how do you deal with it what

 

lessons have you learned from it yes so

 

in terms of adversity we've definitely

 

already taught sunny during this

 

conversation and and for me it is the

 

fact that I'm gay and that was a huge

 

point for me in my life and it's it's

 

the most amount of adversity I've ever

 

faced and I'll say that hands down and

 

so it's never easy for me to talk about

 

this but I genuinely believe that my

 

life didn't start to come together until

 

I admitted to myself who I really was

 

and after that point I found the friends

 

they were feel comfortable around and I

 

found a partner I progressed financially

 

and that for me was was the point in

 

life so now I've got over that I don't

 

feel as though there's any adversity or

 

if I do come across adversity it just

 

doesn't feel it doesn't feel like you've

 

kind of been treated I suppose the

 

biggest challenge of your life yeah

 

quinta percent of me exchanged when I

 

looked back because it's like looking

 

back at a different pace and then it was

 

some money I was trying to be someone

 

who I wasn't at the end of the day and

 

so I take responsibility for that but

 

genuinely I think that society does play

 

a part and that as well absolutely as

 

I've said we're supposed to act in a

 

certain way we're supposed to be a

 

certain type of person and I was made to

 

feel that being gay was wrong and it

 

made me feel like

 

of a person to be honest and it and

 

that's what drove me to not want to be

 

that person it's so sad isn't it how

 

society and I think it is it is a

 

society problem that we can discriminate

 

or prejudiced against certain types of

 

people or people who are different to

 

ourselves and make them feel so bad

 

because although you get groups and you

 

get cliques and stuff nobody's really

 

looking at the individual that you're

 

segregating and what the effect is

 

having to them and this is kind of

 

something I learned in my um when I went

 

back to study social workers and masters

 

because my four of my siblings come from

 

the care system I sin then be

 

discriminated against in terms of

 

they've come into our family we've tried

 

to put them in extracurricular

 

activities we tried to take it to

 

football games and stuff and when one's

 

got autism and then one's got learning

 

difficulties and one is a displaying the

 

level of intelligence that person should

 

display at that age according to the

 

school curriculum it's it's sad to see

 

them just get put to the side or brushed

 

off and it's it's something I don't

 

think the solution for right now but I

 

think if you can create more awareness

 

just just for people just to have a bit

 

of compassion I suppose for hope for

 

people and just think listen everyone's

 

trying to do the best that they can in

 

whatever moment they're they're in and

 

nobody wants to feel like an outcast

 

normally wants to feel different we're

 

all we've all got unique abilities

 

within ourselves and we're all all got

 

our own gift and I just wish the world

 

could just be a bit more sympathetic

 

towards each other to be honest 100

 

percent and I think talking about it is

 

is awareness in itself and I mean that

 

is something that I could carry with me

 

and let affect me mentally I just don't

 

I consider myself to be a strong person

 

mentally and I just choose to not let it

 

impact the rest of my life it's

 

something that happened and it's

 

something that will not affect me for

 

the future and I think choose to make it

 

a part of your strengths because what

 

you what you're going to do even just by

 

sharing the story which I'm very

 

grateful for you doing you're gonna

 

inspire and give other people the

 

courage that listen it's okay it's okay

 

in general I mean like Nick's doing fine

 

now there's millions

 

other people doing fine now and it's not

 

as bad as you probably think it is at

 

this at this point in time so yeah I

 

mean I I don't want it to define me in

 

life and I don't think anyone should let

 

it define them in life I want my life to

 

be defined by either a successful career

 

or a successful business I don't want it

 

to be oh yeah Nick Hall who's gay I want

 

it to be he's a great businessman or a

 

great person and I mean I would judge

 

you it's just myself just under I'm the

 

character in the person that you are

 

similar to myself I I don't want to be

 

judged as a particular thing it doesn't

 

define you that's that's that's probably

 

the right way of me yeah exactly thank

 

you so you've obviously then overcame

 

your biggest fear now and we've spoken

 

about you coming out and realizing that

 

you were gay and you you that's

 

something now you're you're very

 

comfortable with other than that what

 

would be your next biggest fear and it

 

could be anything it could be spiders it

 

could be snakes for what else kind of

 

scares you right now yeah something that

 

genuinely scares me is not being

 

financially secure later in life I think

 

that our generation are in a strange

 

position financially I mean our parents

 

generally have or will retire on

 

probably final salary pensions with a

 

decent state pension at a relatively

 

young age in terms of retirement to say

 

young innovative compiz our generation

 

we're going to need to work until were

 

70 we're going to have very very small

 

pensions in comparison that worries me

 

because I don't want to work until I'm

 

70 for a start and I don't want to live

 

on a hundred pounds a week so it's

 

something that scares me massively

 

but I use it to motivate me because for

 

me I want financial security because I

 

want to enjoy my life effectively that's

 

it yeah fair answer I think I think we

 

all need to need to be mindful of what

 

we're doing for the future which is one

 

of the reasons actually that I got into

 

property

 

to create that kind of wealth in the

 

future so everything I've done at least

 

in my first few years a property was

 

called wealth creation so I thought for

 

a rainy day I've got a portfolio of

 

properties that will keep me ticking

 

over and now obviously now I'm trying to

 

work on the whole cash flow element in

 

order to kind of live the life that

 

myself and my wife want to live so I

 

think that's a good point and you

 

actually just answered my next question

 

I was gonna ask you which was about

 

motivation and I'm always eager to see

 

what keeps people more of a motivation

 

for me it's kind of like I see it like a

 

hit of caffeine I think you have some

 

caffeine you're on a high for a bit and

 

then all of a sudden you can use it so

 

if we just alter that very slightly what

 

kind of drives you maybe a little bit

 

deeper like you what inspires you what

 

makes you do the things that you do on

 

the days but you don't feel like doing

 

them I think weekends or a good example

 

I mean it's easy to say what gets you

 

out of bed from Monday to Friday it's a

 

paycheck what gets me out of bed on a

 

weekend for me at the moment what's

 

getting me out of bed at the weekend is

 

working on this property that I'm

 

currently living in so I've got a list

 

of jobs as long as my arm there if I

 

don't get up on a Saturday morning and

 

do them then they're not going to happen

 

or I'm gonna have to pay trades people

 

to come in and do them so I'm enjoying

 

doing a bit of painting at weekends at

 

the moment obviously the motivation and

 

that is that that's going to invest in

 

this property and eventually will

 

increase its value so it's probably

 

financially motivated that's fantastic

 

yeah great answer mate okay so there

 

we've heard it the buzzer has just gone

 

off and we are now at the front part of

 

this show and this is a part where I put

 

Nick through his paces and I ask him as

 

many random questions as I can fit in

 

over the next 60 seconds so Nick are you

 

ready I think so you'll be fine mate

 

okay we're going to start in three two

 

one what is your favorite documentary

 

and at the moment the fire documentary

 

that I've just what

 

or Netflix about the fire festival

 

whatever one what did you regret this I

 

haven't eaten any breakfast yup the

 

ability to fly it or be invisible fly

 

definitely money or fame money your

 

biggest achievement today living in the

 

house that I live in after starting off

 

and asleep on to internment 2touchpos

 

your favorite food

 

chorong net picture youtube in that

 

place your number one goal this year to

 

get fit again favorite TV show ever can

 

I say film yeah but I'm gonna say film

 

and one that I watched for the day lion

 

would you rather know how you were died

 

or where you were going when definitely

 

love or money

 

well books or movies movie you could sit

 

with one person in the world for an hour

 

who would it be

 

Donald Trump what is this what is your

 

biggest addiction sugar your favorite

 

place in the world Vegas and finally if

 

you could have polished one thing in the

 

world what would it be terrorism

 

fantastic how did you find that

 

yeah good in relation to the fire one I

 

just find that so fascinating the way

 

the guy was the ultimate blogger the

 

thing is though is he could very easily

 

and pulled that off and he would you

 

know that case that he is that's so true

 

that's so true

 

ok so we're almost at the end this show

 

we just got a couple of more questions

 

left my next one's on reflection and we

 

all know hindsight's a wonderful thing

 

it teaches us so many things ie how we

 

can get to places quicker easier or less

 

heartache at the same time I'm also a

 

very very firm believer that the journey

 

teaches us so much and I've got a real

 

belief that everything happens for a

 

reason so what I want to know is if you

 

could go back in time to that one moment

 

where you really struggled and suffered

 

with adversity and just be able to

 

whisper something in your ear knowing

 

what you know now with all the lessons

 

life has taught you what would you tell

 

yourself we talked about quite a bit in

 

during the show and that's the fact that

 

I'm gaining obviously have been for a

 

long time so it would be a case of me

 

going back to the old me so today it

 

just did some reassurance until we even

 

almost give him a glimpse into the

 

future that utterly no one cares

 

probably do care

 

but no one really gives a shit no one

 

worthwhile kiss yeah mmm I love done

 

mate thank you thanks for sharing that

 

and suddenly we are now at the last

 

question and the last question are

 

always like to ask my guess is if in 150

 

years time science fails to save us all

 

and all that is left is a book and that

 

book is a book about Nick and it's about

 

everything that Nick's done or the

 

fascinating wonderful things I want to

 

know is in this book what would firstly

 

the title be and secondly what would be

 

summary at the back tell us about

 

yourself I suppose a great title would

 

be how to be true to yourself and the

 

blurb would be about discovering the

 

things that make you happy in life and

 

what makes you tick and and and living

 

those in in your daily life okay good

 

stuff so just before I close the show

 

what I want to do is give you a chance

 

to let the audience know where they can

 

reach you or where they can contact you

 

and obviously then that will give the

 

audience a chance to really maybe

 

connect with you whether it's in

 

relation to property or you as a person

 

or your business or sales or whatever is

 

really and hopefully if they're resonate

 

with it maybe you can potentially help

 

them in some way so what's the best

 

place is that people can find you I

 

would say Instagram is the best place to

 

get in touch with me because it's so

 

interactive so my Instagram account is

 

at Nick Hall underscore underscore but

 

I'll let you put it on absolutely I'll

 

put in the show notes as well yeah and

 

Facebook LinkedIn any of those or hey

 

I'm on LinkedIn as well

 

welcome to connect with me that's more

 

geared towards my 9 to 5 but of course

 

welcome to get in touch with me on that

 

okay and then Facebook and I keep pretty

 

private to be honest so if not at the

 

moment I've just got a family in front

 

on that that's fine that's fine not a

 

problem that's brilliant I just want to

 

say once again Nick thank you so much

 

for your time

 

for you to share this story as well I'm

 

sure it's gonna help many many people

 

it's certainly given me more insight

 

about yourself as well I mean we've

 

known each other for a while now and are

 

you a lot more so I just wanna say thank

 

you to yourself and to the listeners at

 

home thanks for listening yeah thanks

 

for having me right and remember this

 

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